How Did I Lose Survivor? - Guild Wars Forums

TheHound · Oct 16, 2009, 02:53 PM // 14:53

I'd been going for the survivor title with a mes by doin Kilroy's punch out extravaganza in HM

I got knocked out and in a moment of annoyance closed down GW with 6-7secs on the counter to go.

When i logged back in about 10mins later it was showing i had 1 death. I thought it was because i'd closed down GW but i tried it on other characters and the death count stays the same.

Anyone know what the hell happened?

Thanks in advance

imnotyourmother · Oct 16, 2009, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Oh, you can not close down GW. You must stand up or map out...

Closing down is like getting disconnected. You could have logged out and then onto a different character but you would have only had 5 seconds to do so...

Man..I feel for you.

I have the LS for my War. I got it killing snow wurms outside of Borials station. There you only kill the 10 wurms in hard mode at the TOP area. You can not venture to the lower area or the trees will kill you FASTER than you can map out.

Dude..what else can I say.. bummer

xanarot · Oct 16, 2009, 04:02 PM // 16:02

Killroy: knockdown counts as death if you dont get up.

Since you closed down/logged out/whatever before getting up (aka you didnt get up) it counted as a death.

SpiritSpammer · Oct 16, 2009, 04:07 PM // 16:07

if your game laggs out or you close it out without mapping you stay on the pay for about 5 secons. search is your friend

Carn Angmar · Oct 16, 2009, 04:12 PM // 16:12

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Originally Posted by xanarot

Killroy: knockdown counts as death if you dont get up.

Since you closed down/logged out/whatever before getting up (aka you didnt get up) it counted as a death.

Thanks for the info. I lost my survivor during Killroy's dungeon and had no idea what happened. I bet that's what did it.

Eragon Zarroc · Oct 16, 2009, 04:22 PM // 16:22

despite closing, ur character can still be there for a few seconds.

My New Name · Oct 16, 2009, 06:15 PM // 18:15

yes like people already said when you close gw your char stays on the map for a few seconds so the counter actually went to 0 and it counted as a death

bummer man

Darcryed · Oct 16, 2009, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Sucks for you... logged one day on my survivor ranger and found a death. I know for a fact that she never died, so I don't see how she lost her title. I was tempted to delete her but finally she survived... to the deletion.

jonnieboi05 · Oct 16, 2009, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Ignore what everyone has said. Closing down Guild Wars does NOT automatically leave you in-game by for a few extra moments-- I've tested it religously with 8 accounts logged in at the same time by taking them out into an explorable area.

It isn't 100% that you will be left there-- more like a 10-15% at most. In the rare occurance that you are left there after you close GW, it simply says "<insert name here> has disconnected form the server" and you are left there for 10 extra minutes before the server boots you (which is MORE than enough time to die in that dungeon, obviously).

While I am not saying you should just close it down by this method when trying for Legendary Survivor, am saying that it's fine to do it by this method if you don't mind the very very small risk of d/c'ing.

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Originally Posted by xanarot

Killroy: knockdown counts as death if you dont get up.

Since you closed down/logged out/whatever before getting up (aka you didnt get up) it counted as a death.

As for what this guy said... Well... That is not true at all. I've tested this as well by letting myself get KO'ed and by logging off and I never got a death towards myself once I logged back in within the next 10-20 seconds.

Overall: Bad luck that you just so happened to get a DC on that ONE time that you closed Guild Wars.

~LeNa~

ambergris · Oct 16, 2009, 08:34 PM // 20:34

I am really sorry to hear about your loss of survivor title status. That stinks.

That being said, it was never an issue for me as I was killed by River Skales numerous times in Pre-Searing and just about everything else after that.

(Why do you think I chose Arwen in mourning for my avatar?)

Is there a title for the most deaths?

jonnieboi05 · Oct 16, 2009, 08:42 PM // 20:42

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Originally Posted by ambergris

Is there a title for the most deaths?

Nope. Otherwise a bud of mine would have gotten it a long time ago with his 30 million+ deaths.

~LeNa~

Masmar · Oct 16, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13

After readin the title of this topic: You died

Highlander Of Alba · Oct 16, 2009, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Yes you died ........

Try to do it doing survivor in missions that saves you button mashing and learns you a little

Bob Slydell · Oct 16, 2009, 10:05 PM // 22:05

USUALLY when you close GW, it cuts your connection...in this rare circumstance it regarded you as disconnected rather then logged off, those 6-7 seconds counted down and you were then considered dead. When going for the survivor title try not to just close down GW where your character may not be safe.

cognophile · Oct 16, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40

For survivor, instead of closing GW I'd suggest exiting the game by pressing F12 then Enter.

Saph · Oct 17, 2009, 12:43 AM // 00:43

That's somewhat how I lost survivor on my derv. Got k/oed in kilroy, closed the game, but instead of the gaming closing automatically, it lagged for about 8 sec. So I lost survivor.

Like others have said, it was just bad luck.

Cracko · Oct 17, 2009, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05

Ignore what everyone has said. Closing down Guild Wars does NOT automatically leave you in-game by for a few extra moments-- I've tested it religously with 8 accounts logged in at the same time by taking them out into an explorable area.

It isn't 100% that you will be left there-- more like a 10-15% at most. In the rare occurance that you are left there after you close GW, it simply says "<insert name here> has disconnected form the server" and you are left there for 10 extra minutes before the server boots you (which is MORE than enough time to die in that dungeon, obviously).

While I am not saying you should just close it down by this method when trying for Legendary Survivor, am saying that it's fine to do it by this method if you don't mind the very very small risk of d/c'ing.

As for what this guy said... Well... That is not true at all. I've tested this as well by letting myself get KO'ed and by logging off and I never got a death towards myself once I logged back in within the next 10-20 seconds.

Overall: Bad luck that you just so happened to get a DC on that ONE time that you closed Guild Wars.

~LeNa~

Ignore what he/she said, GW acts so it will keep your character for a little while, if you lose connection for a few seconds it will keep you in there at serverside. if this connection is reestablished (relogging) it will reset this connection so it knows nothing has gone wrong.

and the percentages? what a joke, you think servers and computers are slotmachines? they do what they are programmed to do, not the random percentage of "you are going to die here, but i'll give you some luck and just disconnect you".

jonnieboi05 · Oct 17, 2009, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cracko

Ignore what he/she said, GW acts so it will keep your character for a little while, if you lose connection for a few seconds it will keep you in there at serverside. if this connection is reestablished (relogging) it will reset this connection so it knows nothing has gone wrong.

and the percentages? what a joke, you think servers and computers are slotmachines? they do what they are programmed to do, not the random percentage of "you are going to die here, but i'll give you some luck and just disconnect you".

Do you just enjoy the taste of my <insert word here>? You are forever stalking me.

ON-topic. You are a complete idiot. I get my FACTS off or TESTING it with 8 of my accounts. I have personally RELIGOUSLY tested this with easily over 5 hours invested into it.

As I said. You are a complete idiot and you need to stop stalking me. End of story. I am right. You are wrong. Troll more.

In case you're too simple to understand what was just said, I will break it down to something even you will understand: eye testid da kannection of clothing gild wors wit all ate uf mi akounts and gawt all mi stutistecks frum dat.

Better? I hope so. G'day.

edit: tl;dr more. maybe consider reading what was said instead of skimming through and making yourself looks stupid with comments such as this:

Quote:

and the percentages? what a joke, you think servers and computers are slotmachines? they do what they are programmed to do, not the random percentage of "you are going to die here, but i'll give you some luck and just disconnect you"

~LeNa~

Windf0rce · Oct 17, 2009, 03:16 AM // 03:16

I agree with Lena here. Having gotten LS on more than 6 characters now, I have never had problems with closing GW when near death. It gets me out instantly, it must be indeed a rarer occurance of getting a D/C while trying to close GW.

Of course getting a D/C is different to simply closing GW when having no connection issues. When D/C you will stand there until you totally drop out or reconnect, when you close GW you get out instantly unless your connection is acting up...

jonnieboi05 · Oct 17, 2009, 03:19 AM // 03:19

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Originally Posted by Windf0rce

I agree with Lena here. Having gotten LS on more than 6 characters now, I have never had problems with closing GW when near death. It gets me out instantly, it must be indeed a rarer occurance of getting a D/C while trying to close GW.

Yes, it it a rare occurance. Thank you for the comment on it. 13/24 characters alone have Legendary Survivor and I have never ever have I been ripped off from getting it by clicking [X].

~LeNa~

Oct 16, 2009, 02:53 PM // 14:53	#1
TheHound Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2009 Guild: Snake Dance \|\| Profession: W/Mo	How Did I Lose Survivor? I'd been going for the survivor title with a mes by doin Kilroy's punch out extravaganza in HM I got knocked out and in a moment of annoyance closed down GW with 6-7secs on the counter to go. When i logged back in about 10mins later it was showing i had 1 death. I thought it was because i'd closed down GW but i tried it on other characters and the death count stays the same. Anyone know what the hell happened? Thanks in advance

Oct 16, 2009, 08:34 PM // 20:34	#10
ambergris Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CT. USA Guild: Here Comes Trouble [HUGS]	I am really sorry to hear about your loss of survivor title status. That stinks. That being said, it was never an issue for me as I was killed by River Skales numerous times in Pre-Searing and just about everything else after that. (Why do you think I chose Arwen in mourning for my avatar?) Is there a title for the most deaths? Last edited by ambergris; Oct 16, 2009 at 08:37 PM // 20:37..

Oct 16, 2009, 03:06 PM // 15:06	#2
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	Oh, you can not close down GW. You must stand up or map out... Closing down is like getting disconnected. You could have logged out and then onto a different character but you would have only had 5 seconds to do so... Man..I feel for you. I have the LS for my War. I got it killing snow wurms outside of Borials station. There you only kill the 10 wurms in hard mode at the TOP area. You can not venture to the lower area or the trees will kill you FASTER than you can map out. Dude..what else can I say.. bummer

Oct 16, 2009, 04:02 PM // 16:02	#3
xanarot Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: [GoE] Profession: R/	Killroy: knockdown counts as death if you dont get up. Since you closed down/logged out/whatever before getting up (aka you didnt get up) it counted as a death.

Oct 16, 2009, 04:07 PM // 16:07	#4
SpiritSpammer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2009 Profession: Rt/	if your game laggs out or you close it out without mapping you stay on the pay for about 5 secons. search is your friend

Oct 16, 2009, 04:22 PM // 16:22	#6
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	despite closing, ur character can still be there for a few seconds.

Oct 16, 2009, 06:15 PM // 18:15	#7
My New Name Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2008	yes like people already said when you close gw your char stays on the map for a few seconds so the counter actually went to 0 and it counted as a death bummer man

Oct 16, 2009, 07:49 PM // 19:49	#8
Darcryed Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2008	Sucks for you... logged one day on my survivor ranger and found a death. I know for a fact that she never died, so I don't see how she lost her title. I was tempted to delete her but finally she survived... to the deletion.

Oct 16, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13	#12
Masmar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Guild: We Gat Dis [HRUU] Profession: E/	After readin the title of this topic: You died

Oct 16, 2009, 09:35 PM // 21:35	#13
Highlander Of Alba Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Real Rogue Clan Profession: Rt/Mo	Yes you died ........ Try to do it doing survivor in missions that saves you button mashing and learns you a little

Oct 16, 2009, 10:05 PM // 22:05	#14
Bob Slydell Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2007	USUALLY when you close GW, it cuts your connection...in this rare circumstance it regarded you as disconnected rather then logged off, those 6-7 seconds counted down and you were then considered dead. When going for the survivor title try not to just close down GW where your character may not be safe.

Oct 16, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40	#15
cognophile Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: USA	For survivor, instead of closing GW I'd suggest exiting the game by pressing F12 then Enter.

Oct 17, 2009, 12:43 AM // 00:43	#16
Saph Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2009 Profession: R/	That's somewhat how I lost survivor on my derv. Got k/oed in kilroy, closed the game, but instead of the gaming closing automatically, it lagged for about 8 sec. So I lost survivor. Like others have said, it was just bad luck.

Oct 17, 2009, 03:16 AM // 03:16	#19
Windf0rce Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007	I agree with Lena here. Having gotten LS on more than 6 characters now, I have never had problems with closing GW when near death. It gets me out instantly, it must be indeed a rarer occurance of getting a D/C while trying to close GW. Of course getting a D/C is different to simply closing GW when having no connection issues. When D/C you will stand there until you totally drop out or reconnect, when you close GW you get out instantly unless your connection is acting up...